In the latest episode of HipHopDX’s debate show The Bigger Picture, the hosts engaged in a lively discussion surrounding Pitchfork’s recent list of the "100 Best Albums of the 2020s So Far." This topic sparked a passionate debate about what constitutes a classic Hip Hop album in the current decade, with each host bringing their unique perspectives to the table.
The Classic Contenders
Kicking off the discussion, host Jeremy Hecht presented his list of contenders for classic Hip Hop albums of the decade. He highlighted The Forever Story by JID, Call Me If You Get Lost by Tyler, the Creator, Alfredo by Freddie Gibbs, and Dave’s We’re All Alone in This Together. Jeremy was aware that his selections might stir controversy, especially among fans of JPEGMAFIA and Little Simz. He acknowledged this potential backlash, stating, “I know there’s gonna be JPEGMAFIA stans and Little Simz stans, but those [picks] are mine.” His candidness set the tone for a spirited debate.
A Different Perspective
However, co-panelists Elliott Wilson and DJ Hed were quick to challenge Jeremy’s assertions. While they recognized the quality of the albums he mentioned, they argued that the 2020s have yet to produce true classics. Instead, they suggested that many of the albums being hailed as classics are more accurately described as personal favorites. This distinction sparked further discussion about the criteria for what makes an album a classic in the ever-evolving landscape of Hip Hop.
Expanding the List
As the conversation progressed, Jeremy continued to propose additional albums for consideration. He mentioned Donda by Kanye West, Certified Lover Boy by Drake, Pray for Paris by Westside Gunn, Burden of Proof by Benny the Butcher, The Off-Season by J. Cole, and the collaboration Her Loss by Drake and 21 Savage. DJ Hed also chimed in with Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers by Kendrick Lamar. Despite these suggestions, Elliott remained unconvinced, bluntly stating, “None, none, none,” in response to the idea that any of these albums could be considered classics.
Elliott’s Criteria for Classics
Elliott elaborated on his stance, emphasizing that while some albums from the 2020s have received significant praise and are often discussed as future classics—such as Nas and Hit-Boy’s King’s Disease trilogy and 21 Savage and Metro Boomin’s Savage Mode II—he believes they ultimately fall short of that designation. “I like that album a lot,” he said of the Savage/Metro project, “but I feel like most of these albums still fall short.” He articulated a nuanced view, suggesting that while some records may be close to achieving classic status, they do not fully meet the criteria necessary for such a distinction.
DJ Hed’s Contribution
Adding to the debate, DJ Hed introduced his own pick: Michael by Killer Mike, which recently won the Best Rap Album award at the 2024 Grammy Awards. This choice underscored the diversity of opinions within the discussion and highlighted the ongoing evolution of Hip Hop as a genre. DJ Hed’s selection brought a fresh perspective to the conversation, suggesting that the definition of a classic might also include recent works that have made a significant impact.
The Complexity of Defining a Classic
As the hosts wrapped up their conversation, it became evident that defining a classic Hip Hop album is a complex and subjective task. The debate illuminated the varying criteria that different listeners and critics apply when evaluating music. The discussion underscored the idea that the landscape of Hip Hop is continually shifting, making it challenging to pinpoint which albums will stand the test of time.
For those interested in diving deeper into this engaging debate, the full discussion can be found at the 47:30 mark of the episode. To catch the entire episode of The Bigger Picture, tune in today, October 5th, at 10 a.m. PST on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This lively exchange of ideas not only reflects the passion of Hip Hop enthusiasts but also highlights the ongoing dialogue about the genre’s evolution and the criteria for what makes an album truly classic.
